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Ubisoft Montreal's Gaetan Richard talks to us about what Far Cry 2's multiplayer game has in store...
With an accessible XP and class system, more fire than the More Fire Crew, and an arsenal of weapons that would make Rambo blush, Far Cry 2's multiplayer game is certainly set to rock the halls of PSN, Xbox Live and PC lobbies when it's released next Friday. We caught up with the game's Multiplayer Producer, Gaetan Richard, to get a lowdown on the standout features of this much anticipated FPS.
TVG: We noticed that Far Cry 2's multiplayer has a similar XP system to Rainbow Six: Vegas. Is that a conscious decision on your part or simply Ubisoft's house style?
Not really. I think many other games also do this, or many other companies. I think it's a really good way to get the players hooked up for a game. There are some players who just want to play for a few hours and have fun with their friends, and we know that some people are more competitive and really want to be the best in one specific game or play for a long time against others, and that's how we managed to do it in Far Cry 2 with our class system.
What we found with the standard progression (that was the first mechanic we tried, where you reach certain levels to unlock weapons) was that it's not fun for a newcomer because they'll be playing against guys who have really powerful guns while they have no experience and no good guns, so they'll lose all the diamonds for sure. Because of this, we tried to build a class system in which you can upgrade each class with three diamonds, so that in a couple of matches you have the best weapon for one class. It evens out the field and even if you're a new player against an experienced player, you can still have the same weapons after a brief spell of gameplay.
TVG: We've seen the health system at work in the single-player before and there's some pretty original touches to it, but it also works really well in the multiplayer as well (you almost have to limp into a corner and lick your wounds like an injured dog). Was the system multiplayer led or did it start off in the single-player game?
It was single-player led first and at the beginning we used the same system for multiplayer, with the syringes and then the long healing animation. This didn't work at all because syringes mean that you're full of health within one second, so you would fight against a guy and think you'd got him down and then he heals. You shoot him with another clip and then he heals again, so it was infinite battles like that.
So we said, 'Okay, we're going to cut the syringes from the multiplayer and just keep the long animations,' and now it's really working fine. It's like a risk-reward where you say, 'Maybe two more bullets will finish him and then I need to run and hide, heal and then go back into battle.' You always have to think about what your strategy is.
TVG: Last year we spoke with Clint Hocking (Far Cry 2's Creative Director) about the multiplayer when the game was unveiled at Leipzig. He didn't reveal much, but did say: "What we didn't want to do is to go 'Now that we have these African environments, let's put capture the flag in there.' We want the multiplayer to feel like you're a mercenary, gun for hire type, fighting in a bush war in Africa."
We certainly enjoyed the game modes we played here today, but the only other mode than capture the flag and deathmatches was Uprising. Did you have any other multiplayer modes in the pipeline that didn't work out, or are you hoping to bring some more in with DLC?
We thought about many more complex game modes. A good game takes a long time to tune and make sure it's perfect, and then we thought about the map editor that we were building at the same time. We said, 'If we come up with a game mode that is too complex then the user won't be able to create good maps for that specific mode, so we're going to go for the three standard game modes and then our Uprising game mode, which is a mix of VIP and control points.'
We think it's still pretty easy to make a map for that game mode and then the user can make thousands of maps with that game mode and the other modes as well. It's one thing to create a good multiplayer game and another to create a game that works fine for the map editor as well, so I think we've found a good balance there.
TVG: One of the things we instantly noticed in the multiplayer is that there are no weapons lying around the game world. This is presumably because if there were rocket launchers just lying around the place for anybody to use then it would cause uncontrollable carnage. Did you play with that idea at all, or did you decide there would be no weapon pick-ups at the very beginning of development?
All of the strategy with the weapons, upgrades, and class system is really something that came after a lot of testing. Originally it was a standard progression where you level up and get more weapons, and you would be able to pick-up weapons on the ground. At one point we even tried weapon crates that would randomly spawn and many other things as well, like crates for each weapon class and everything. We found that it became chaotic because a player's primary and secondary weapons would be too powerful together. The team really tried to balance it out with the class system and we think everything's balanced in that system and it works fine right now, but it was not the first stop, that's for sure. There was a lot of trial and error.
TVG: We know that DLC will be coming for Far Cry 2, but will any of it be for the multiplayer and, if it is, will it be more than just maps and weapons?
There will be many things. Obviously we don't want to reveal too much right now, but with the map editor we cannot come up with the package. It's just new maps - it wouldn't work, so we're working on a different strategy right now and I think it will be really interesting for the players.
TVG: We've been playing as the Saboteur class so we've had the silenced MP5, Assault Rifle with scope, and improvised explosives. What sort of weapons do the other classes unravel?
My favourite weapon comes from the Gunner class, where the PKM is the first big machine gun that you get there. I think it's really good for defending a control point or your base in Capture the Diamond. My second favourite class is the Sharpshooter sniper class where you start with the M1903, then you upgrade to a Dragunov, and the last sniper is an AS50, two bullets from which will make a vehicle catch on fire. The Commando class has assault weapons like the AK47, the FANFL, and as a secondary weapon you have the M79 Grenade launcher, which is also pretty effective.
The build you played is still a work in progress. In the last couple of weeks we've tuned weapons to make sure they are well balanced, because at some points the explosives were too powerful and at other times the shotguns were too powerful. We really worked hard in the last weeks to playtest a lot, with the dev team and outside of the studio, to make sure everything is in tune. No class is strong in everything or weak in everything. Some are better for a specific purpose and I think we have a good balance now.
TVG: The whole of the gaming press is rating Far Cry 2 very highly indeed. We've had it on our highest anticipation rating since last summer. With this in mind, I'm sure you'll have high hopes for the Xbox Live rankings, but do you think it can rival Call of Duty 4's multiplayer success?
Hopefully yes but CoD4 had a legacy, so it had something to build on. I think Call of Duty 2 was an amazing game when it launched on Xbox 360 and then CoD3 was done at another studio, but with CoD4 they had a really good engine and rankings system, so they just keep on pushing that game. I think Far Cry 2 is really different. Call of Duty is more about the military; everything's very clean cut; you need to know the maps to succeed in your class because then you know the sniper will always be at that point and the other team will always be at another point. You learn the maps and then you're good at it.
The dynamic weather in Far Cry 2 mixes things up. For example, if you're playing as a sniper and there's a lot of fog then the sniper is useless, or if you're playing at night then the sniper might not be that good but the assault weapons will be better. And with the fire, maybe the spot you like to go to is burning and you can't go there, so there are so many dynamic things in Far Cry 2 that it doesn't seem as clean cut and it's more about the wilderness. But maybe it's more fun for everybody as a result. You don't need to play 200 hours to have fun and master your level. It will be new because you will have thousands of new maps so nobody will be able to learn the maps as well, so I think it's great fun.
TVG would like to thank Gaetan Richard, Far Cry 2's Multiplayer Producer, for taking the time to speak to us about Ubisoft Montreal's upcoming shooter for Xbox 360, PS3, and PC, that's due for release on October 24th.
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Added:Tue 04th Aug 2009 13:39, Post No: 121
Of course you can't play multiplayer without Xbox Live - or are you referring to splitscreen?
Added:Tue 04th Aug 2009 04:32, Post No: 120
pay for an xbox live gold membership might work also once you connoect to xbox live download a few maps to see whats possible on the 360 as the pc version can handle the game better especially with lots of items on screen (explosiv boxes ect)
Added:Mon 03rd Aug 2009 20:18, Post No: 119
Right im seriously annoyed at how you cant go on multiplayer without xbox live (if you get what i mean) And im not really that good on map editor, cause like on google images ive seen AMAZING maps..... Any tips plz? thx.
Added:Fri 01st May 2009 09:43, Post No: 118
Point taken.
Added:Thu 30th Apr 2009 21:39, Post No: 117
I suspect he is if he's only got one more diamond to find. I guess you'd be pretty lucky to get that many just by stumbling acrosthem :)
Added:Thu 30th Apr 2009 13:48, Post No: 116
Are you using the diamond detector, which is the light on your GPS that starts blinking green when you're near a diamond. The more it blinks, the closer you are, and the green light is continuous if you're directly facing the diamond's position?
Added:Thu 30th Apr 2009 02:31, Post No: 115
from post 111 (forgot to login) lol i chose to defend mikes bar suprisingly the buddy diddnt turn round and start shooting me, anyway now on the second act i just need 1 more diamond and ill have all the cases though now its like looking for a needle in a hay stack.
Added:Wed 29th Apr 2009 00:24, Post No: 114
That buddy bug is weird. I guess I know what plot choice you'll be making at the end of the first map.
Added:Tue 28th Apr 2009 20:48, Post No: 113
from post 111 im playing the 360 version which to be honest is quite a let down especially as it has frmae rate issues and pop up (objects in the game suddenly appear when your close to them and vanish just as quickly) to be honest i diddnt notice the frame rate dropping till recently.
lol and finding all the diamonds on the 360 only gets you 10g but ive already completed it so now im looking for the diamonds and safe houses, lol a bit like looking for pidgons in gta (takes a while but adds a bit of fun to the game)
Added:Mon 27th Apr 2009 15:46, Post No: 112
@ post 111
I never had any problems with buddies shooting me unprovoked, so I'm not sure what's going on there. I assumed you're too far in to bother with a restart, so just kill them first and carry on - it doesn't really affect the plot, anyway. Also, I didn't bother trying to get all the diamond cases as it was just too time-consuming. I got about 60-odd in my 20 hours with the game, and that was with moderate searching (albeit without a guide). I can't believe you only get a poxy bronze trophy for getting all diamonds in the game; it's really not worth the effort.